diff --git a/ucs/management/univention-management-console-frontend/umc/widgets/Form.js b/ucs/management/univention-management-console-frontend/umc/widgets/Form.js
index 6d2d360..36e7f52 100644
--- a/ucs/management/univention-management-console-frontend/umc/widgets/Form.js
+++ b/ucs/management/univention-management-console-frontend/umc/widgets/Form.js
@@ -218,10 +218,12 @@ dojo.declare("umc.widgets.Form", [
 				// widget values have not been loaded completely so far
 				//console.log('iwidget:', iwidget.name);
 				++this._initializingElements;
+				console.log("Form Init: " + iwidget.id);
 				var handle = this.connect(iwidget, 'onValuesLoaded', dojo.hitch(this, function() {
 					//console.log('onValuesLoaded:', iwidget.name, iwidget.get('value'));
 					// disconnect from the signal
 					this.disconnect(handle);
+					console.log("Form Callback: " + iwidget.id);
 
 					// decrement the internal counter
 					--this._initializingElements;
diff --git a/ucs/management/univention-management-console-frontend/umc/widgets/MultiInput.js b/ucs/management/univention-management-console-frontend/umc/widgets/MultiInput.js
index 1e3a386..be9db81 100644
--- a/ucs/management/univention-management-console-frontend/umc/widgets/MultiInput.js
+++ b/ucs/management/univention-management-console-frontend/umc/widgets/MultiInput.js
@@ -82,6 +82,8 @@ dojo.declare("umc.widgets.MultiInput", [
 
 	_lastDepends: null,
 
+	_initializingElements: 0,
+
 	_createHandler: function(ifunc) {
 		// This handler will be called by all subwidgets of the MultiInput widget.
 		// When the first request comes in, we will execute the function to compute
@@ -149,14 +151,48 @@ dojo.declare("umc.widgets.MultiInput", [
 
 	_loadValues: function(depends) {
 		// delegate the call to _loadValues to all widgets
+		console.log('MultiInput: _loadValues: ' + this.id);
 		this._lastDepends = depends;
-		dojo.forEach(this._widgets, function(iwidgets) {
+		this._initializingElements = 0;
+		dojo.forEach(this._widgets, dojo.hitch(this, function(iwidgets) {
+
+			dojo.forEach(iwidgets, dojo.hitch(this, function(jwidget) {
+				if ('onValuesLoaded' in jwidget  && !(jwidget._valuesLoaded && !jwidget._deferredOrValues)) {
+					++this._initializingElements;
+					console.log("MultiInput Init: " + jwidget.id);
+					var handle = this.connect(jwidget, 'onValuesLoaded', dojo.hitch(this, function() {
+						console.log("MultiInput Callback: " + jwidget.id);
+						// disconnect from the signal
+						this.disconnect(handle);
+		
+						// decrement the internal counter
+						--this._initializingElements;
+		
+						// send event when the last element has been initialized
+						if (0 === this._initializingElements) {
+							console.log('MultiInput: top: _initializingElements == 0 ==> calling onValuesLoaded');
+							this.onValuesLoaded();
+						}
+					}));
+				}
+			}));
+
 			dojo.forEach(iwidgets, function(jwidget) {
 				if ('_loadValues' in jwidget) {
 					jwidget._loadValues(depends);
 				}
 			});
-		});
+		}));
+
+		// maybe all elements are already initialized
+		if (!this._initializingElements) {
+			console.log('MultiInput: bottom: _initializingElements == 0 ==> calling onValuesLoaded');
+			this.onValuesLoaded();
+		}
+	},
+
+	onValuesLoaded: function() {
+		// event stub
 	},
 
 	_setAllValues: function(_valList) {
@@ -400,13 +436,14 @@ dojo.declare("umc.widgets.MultiInput", [
 			rowContainer.startup();
 			this.addChild(rowContainer);
 
-			// call the _loadValues method by hand
-			dojo.forEach(order, function(iname) {
-				var iwidget = widgets[iname];
-				if ('_loadValues' in iwidget) {
-					iwidget._loadValues(this._lastDepends);
-				}
-			}, this);
+// 			// call the _loadValues method by hand
+// 			dojo.forEach(order, function(iname) {
+// 				var iwidget = widgets[iname];
+// 				if ('_loadValues' in iwidget) {
+// 					iwidget._loadValues(this._lastDepends);
+// 				}
+// 			}, this);
+			this._loadValues(this._lastDepends);
 		}
 
 		// add the new button 
diff --git a/ucs/management/univention-management-console-module-udm/umc/js/_udm/DetailPage.js b/ucs/management/univention-management-console-module-udm/umc/js/_udm/DetailPage.js
index ef230b1..4594ca6 100644
--- a/ucs/management/univention-management-console-module-udm/umc/js/_udm/DetailPage.js
+++ b/ucs/management/univention-management-console-module-udm/umc/js/_udm/DetailPage.js
@@ -688,9 +688,16 @@ dojo.declare("umc.modules._udm.DetailPage", [ dijit.layout.ContentPane, umc.widg
 				this._form.getWidget( '$objecttype$' ).set( 'content', this._( 'Type: <i>%(type)s</i>', { type: vals.$labelObjectType$ } ) );
 				this._form.getWidget( '$location$' ).set( 'content', this._( 'Position: <i>%(path)s</i>', { path: path } ) );
 
+				this._receivedObjFormData = this.getValues();
+				this._receivedObjFormData.$policies$ = this._receivedObjOrigData.$policies$;
+			}));
+
+			var handle = this.connect(this._form, 'onValuesInitialized', dojo.hitch(this, function() {
+				this.disconnect(handle);
 				// save the original form data
 				this._receivedObjFormData = this.getValues();
 				this._receivedObjFormData.$policies$ = this._receivedObjOrigData.$policies$;
+				console.warn("ONVALUESINIT: 3b");
 			}));
 		}
 		else {